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Angry Joe Show: Why the VGA’s Suck Balls
Written by Admir J. on Friday, January 1st, 2010
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Posted on 1 January 2010
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I completely agree. VGAs are complete bullshit, and everyone knows it. But it’s targeted towards the non-gamer market. Spike doesn’t care about integrity as they care as much about ratings and advertising dollars, which is why I don’t watch the garbage. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a single VGA live, to be honest, because I know it’s going to have the integrity of shows like The People’S choice Awards, the MTV Music Awards, etc.
Not to say I think the Oscars have so much integrity, but that’s another issue.
As for how to make the awards show better, I definitely agree that it’s bullshit that Spike hand picks the nominees that people get to vote on.
If it’s an open-to-the-public voting system, the public should also get to vote on which games get nominated.
Otherwise, there’s the panel style you described. But instead of a panel, maybe have professionals in the video game industry get to vote on the games the way Hollywood has actors, studios, producers, etc. or whoever else it is that is allowed to vote on the Oscar winners. Keep it inbred like Hollywood.
Woah, read my mind there…
Well man all I have to say is you are honest and I agree that the hype and advertising are bullshit. Posted on our front page news:
http://www.technewshw.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2306
Cheers,
Dave
Joe I LOVE IT! Completely agree on the VGA voting system, however I have a sneaking suspicion Uncharted 2 would have beaten out the competition anyway.
Had Uncharted not been released this year my vote would have been for Batman AA, fantastic game.
Great job on the video. Spoke good truth. The VGA’s try to hard to please the wide audience of gamers instead of just focusing on the industry it self that is why the show will get no where.
If you were going for a Freddie Mercury look ca. 2009, you won.
NHL10 is unreal, much better than madden and fifa.
I agree with your analysis. I noticed your criticisms are very similar in style and delivery to the Angry Video Game Nerd (which I guess is a good thing).
Your right though. The VGA’s need to change or end.
You complain a lot about NHL 10. Your complaint is that does anyone actually watch hockey. Talk about the games. Did you play and enjoy it? It’s unfortunate if you don’t like all sports. Sorry Madden or FIFA didn’t win. Guess you and the rest of the football fanboys should have got together to vote on the game you like the best instead of the one that should have won…right?
I’m inclined to agree with the video (though it got a bit obnoxious at times), though it hardly even touches upon what’s probably the most important question – why do we need a televised video games award show in the first place? Are we as fans that desperate for mainstream validation? Do we really long for the further co-opting of the hobby by its worst elements (fanboys and corporate suits)?
Nearly every major website and publication lists their own ‘best of’ lists at the end of each year (not to mention the existence of sites like Metacritic), so the show serves little legitimate purpose. Sure, other entertainment industries have their own award events, but shows like the Oscars and Emmys are similarly low on credibility in the eyes of most serious movie- or TV-viewer. The only difference is that those shows are (slightly) less vapid and have bigger-name celebrities.
I’d much prefer if there were no video game awards show whatsoever, but if there is, part of the solution would be to take it away from SpikeTV. That network’s brand of testosterone-filled machismo and sexism highlights another one of the worst aspects of the hobby.
And on an unrelated note, yikes, someone should edit the introductory paragraph preceding this video. It’s really poorly written.
Good show, and good points Joe. Just do me a favor: change it from VGA’s to VGAs. It’s plural, not possessive (it’s also not a contraction of VGA is). Again, you’re damn right. Love the ‘stach.
Joe, although you do have a point, I can see why nobody invited you to host this ridiculously crappy awards show that I’ve never seen.
You have no stage presence. You are not even funny. It’s painfully obvious that you’re not only reading, but that you can’t retain more than 20 seconds of dialogue, and that’s being very kind to you.
What is this? Youtube amateur hour? You have painfully obvious cuts in the middle of sentences. You speak very slowly and deliberately, but much like a foreigner speaking to handicapped children. Your “edge” and “anger” seems to hang on the excessive and unfunny use of profanity.
Also, video games are incredibly subjective, so it’s bound to be a strict popularity contest. Unlike movies, music, and books, the quality of the videogame (usually) depends entirely on the way the gamer interacts. You can have the “greatest video game of all time,” but if someone just isn’t used to or doesn’t want to play it the way everyone else does, they may not like the game.
This video would’ve been much more entertaining and interesting if it were done by pretty much anyone else. I can’t believe that you’re probably getting paid for doing your job so poorly, even if your paycheck is in the form of a hamburger and mountain dew.
Take some public speaking classes. Learn how to memorize lines longer than a breath. At least the people associated with the VGAs, or whatever, probably know that the show is trash. You, on the other hand, seem to think that you’re “cool,” and have a unique voice that deserves to be heard. This would be true if you weren’t forty, so it’s false.
Oh, and that woman you wondered about who she was? I could be wrong, but I believe she plays a character in the fairly successful TV series “House, M.D.,” which is a pretty slick show that has featured video games in a number of episodes, and for better or worse had an episode’s plot derive from a videogame and the developer of said fictional videogame.
Nice research. Get on with your mid-life crisis or whatever else is wrong with you.
ur a moron for not knowing who olivia wilde is
How to make a Ball Licking Angry Joe Show:
1. Sound like you are reading off a script.
2. Call Megan Fox the biggest dumb slut because you don’t like her acting and she is a corporate shill and you are pig headed.
3. Film yourself watching the awards making obvious comments.
4. Grow a mustache when you are only 15. The show is incomplete without a teenage mustache. Teenage mustache should also be coupled with adolescent statements like “licks balls”.
PS. I stoled your invite to the VGA. They had a kings throne for you.
Hello, i dont know the VGA but from what i’ve seen here (nominations & winners) this award show SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
BTW who cares about VGA anyways? is it a big thing?
i agree with everything he said, but he should really think about the way he presents his own show >_> he reminds me of that douchebag that shows up on the tv every 30 minutes in InFamous…god i was glad when he died…..
If you don’t like it.. be like me.. Don’t watch it. It will disappear fairly quickly.. along with G4TV.
If the VGA’s were from here then they’d be ok IMO
http://www.interactive.org/
that is most definitely crossing the rubicon
I agree with you. PC gaming was completely lost on the VGA. Should have won best PC game not Xbox360.
I agreed with some of the arguments in this video but Angry Joe sucks as much as this year’s and previous year’s VGA show.
VGA needs to be more serious about its format and dial down the advertising a bit but since Spike is owned by Viacom what do you expect.
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If you’re going to write about something, please make it so it doesn’t hurt my eyes.
considering the whole thing is corporate sponsored should lead you to believe it’s going to blow. did you really expect a quality awards show on spike? the video-game industry is such a widely spread underground entity of our modern entertainment that it’s almost ridiculous to bring it to the mainstream at all. if you want a vga show done RIGHT by the people who are actually important in the industry it needs to be done the way the content is spread in the first place: online. the fact that it’s on television is almost beyond me considering gamers probably aren’t watching programmed television anyway. i mean, i haven’t watched regular programming in a couple years, mostly because it sucks. spikeTV does not escape that judgment.
This guy has to be the worst personality i have ever seen on the internet. I mean i like his point, but his delivery is terrible and totally awkward.
It seems to me that the wider the variety of potential nominees in a category, the shittier the nominees are, so why not just add about 50 more categories?
“Best Survival Horror”, “Best Platformer”, “Best First-Person Shooter”, what happened to that shit?
Oh yeah… “Best Action/Adventure Game”. FUCK THAT.
We need “Best Real-Time Strategy Game” AND “Best Turn-Based Strategy Game” in the same awards show, you know?
And what about “Best Gadget Disguised as a Game”?
You know, crap like “KORG10 DS ” or whatever it’s called, and the latest dress-up game for DS, and all that other stuff that takes no skill whatsoever as a video-game, but rather just lets you organize, edit, and generally putz around with stuff.
“GameBoy Camera” and “You’re In The Movies!” for EyeToy come to mind.
My point is that with more categories comes less possible nominees for each category, and this would ensure that only games that are relatively similar are nominated.
For example, it’s unfair to put “NHL 10″ vs “Madden 10″ vs “Fifa 10″, because people would just pick their favorite sport, but if you had “NBA Live 2010″ vs “NCAA Basketball 2010″ vs “NBA Street #: [unnecessary subtitle here]“, you’d have a group of basketball games and there might be some actual similarities and differences to weigh in on a decision.
This has nothing to do with the content of this post. I agree that the VGA show panders to a non-gaming audience that does not care about games the way we do. However, from a technical standpoint, the above post is atrocious. Any convincing points that are made about the validity of Spike’s VGA telecast are lost in a number (around 15) of grammatical, spelling, and syntactic errors. About 5 minutes of responsible (and intelligent) editing would have cleared this up and strengthened the seriousness of the argument that is being made.
Oh, and I should state that I didn’t even bother watching the video, so I cannot comment on that aspect of this post. I assumed that given such a poor understanding of written English, the spoken variant could only have been far worse.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that most of the voting for the awards is not done by the fans, with the exception of a few viewer awards. I thought that judges were chosen from all throughout the industry, game journalists and developers and the like. Guys like Jeff Gerstmann over at Giant Bomb are given judging credits, though I’m not sure what that in actuality means.
Also, I do completely agree that they need to rethink how they show the VGA’s somewhat, and I really do like the ideas of showcasing stuff like the very best players of street fighter 4 or rock band, and cool homages to old games. But I’m sort of confused as to why Joe is so angry over the advertising. It’s a production on television, and though many (myself included) may not like it, those things live and die on their corporate sponsorships. The only ad that I thought was reprehensible was the “Indie Game fueled by Dew” nonsense, though the irony of that statement was so palpable that it was one of the funniest moments of the entire show for me.
Most Shameless Promotion Award: UFC 09 winning. You knew somebody over at the UFC paid Spike under the table to have it win an award, and then you see the trailer for the new one, and it looks no different.
I’ve never expected them to be better.
I totally argee i watched this and was thinking the whole time how the hell didnt that game win or even get nominated.
I agree with some comments here, like the mustache
but I also agree with many of his complaints like lack of PC, japanese or nintendo games and games being nominated after being out for barely a month.
How can anyone agree with the VGAs though?
Koku, it looks like more viewers agree that Angry Joe and his diction suck more than the VGAs. Time to fire him, perhaps.
@ Joe,
Good for you. Missed a great video because of a paragraph that was just a random post to go with the video.
@ Daryl,
That’s a very stupid way to look at it. How many peeps said Assassins Creed was terrible in some way and it ended up selling 6 million copies. So now they made a sequel, if they listened to the people they would have never succeeded. That is why they are what they are and that is why you comment on sites.
Just because you didn’t like the video or Angry Joe doesn’t mean the guy will be gone. He happens to have a bigger audience than most in gaming and the guy knows his facts.
…right. There’s a huge difference between someone saying they don’t like something that they payed for, and a completely different thing when people go entirely out of their way to voice displeasure about something that took up only five or six minutes of their time and cost them absolutely nothing.
For anyone to have said anything, good or bad, instead of simply leaving and forgetting about it speaks volumes, but it seems like more people were displeased with the lack of remote professionalism and comprehension of the English language than praise.
@ Daryl G.
Can’t offend me or anyone on this site, move on if you don’t enjoy the things on it. It’s as simple as that, no one will kiss your ass to cater to you. For your information, he has a good audience, not the same type as you but he has a good one.
I’m not trying to offend anyone, but when you have a “comments” section, you should expect comments. It comes with the territory.
If anyone only went out of their way to praise something, and never criticize, then the world would be in horrible shape.
he makes a lot of good solid points. not everything needs an award show, especially something as objective as video games
Yeah, but at least he makes some really good observations.
@Daryl G oh you poor dumb soul, you say these things about him but at least he gets paid for it and lives in his own fancy place while you probily make mimium wage and sleep in your mother’s sofa, oh and the vid makes perfrect sense.
@kek nobody cares you loser
@S.C. wow you say all these things while fingerbanging your mother.